It's been decades in the works. Buzz Patterson in his book about his time carrying the Nuke Football for the Clinton, he observed many of the Military Old Guard seeing promotions more political based over merit they took retirement while the going was good. Look at the people involved and where did they get the toe hold to higher status, across the board of our Government. Supposedly Republican FBI guy Comey was Clinton promoted. Our Agencies are filed by people not so aligned with US as much as grabbing power so they CAN for that perfect union envisioned by about every tyrant of the 19th/20th centuries.
Once the public accepted the FBI’s explanation of what happened to TWA Flight 800, the Agency has never had to be particularly imaginative or subtle in its ops.
What IS funny about Flight 800 and the resuling cover-up is a liberal, Dem pilot friend of mine from high school was laughing at anybody who suggested it was a conspiracy, UNTIL that one idiot said that the vertical streaks from the ground to the plane were really the plane going up after its nose was blown off. The pilot said it would nose over, and after that, he was also into the Coverup Camp! You and only fool the total idiots!
Investigative Reporter Jack Cashill did a lot of work on that and I hate to think of US Navy screwing up so badly but I think they did and covered it up. I'm ready for my tin foil hat!
And what about the pilots of other planes nearby? They also saw "streaks" heading towards 800, AND the PETN residue on the seats---not JP4! Really makes one wonder, at the very least.
RFK, Jr. is not my choice for anything but his Dad and Uncle were killed and Secret Service denied protection for him? What we have now at that agency is an intentional effort to protect their friends and political enemies not so much. Trump will be attacked again whether he's re-elected or not.
“Fortunately, the shooter had already been neutralized . . . .” Yes, amazing the efficiency with which THAT happened! The SS didn’t spot anyone on the roof, but put a bullet through the shooter’s skull within seconds. Everything that might ever be known about the shooter can now also be neutralized, effortlessly, especially with a press that is doing its best to pretend that the whole thing never even happened.
Good piece, Glenn. If this were the UK these days, this essay would model just how much a citizen can suggest about the government and its police without fear of imprisonment. You’re crafty, but you’d be pushing it.
For the record, I think the notion that the SS and the shooter were in cahoots is absurd.
*For one thing, wouldn't they have gotten a better marksman?
*For another, how likely is it that there would be multiple agents conspiring on such an ambitious mission without anyone ever blowing the whistle?
*For another, are we to believe that the local cops who were on-site were in on it too even though they apparently had no prior contact with the SS?
*For another, if they deliberately permitted the shooter to shoot from the rooftop with a rifle, why not just "accidentally" allow him to walk up to the podium with a large caliber handgun under his shirt?
*For another, if it was a conspiracy, then why did they express concern and suspicions before the shooting began? Wouldn't they instead pretend to believe everything was hunky-dory?
*For another, the multiple rallies don't get staffed by the same SS agents. So the conspirators would have to recruit and juggle many different agents as co-conspirators, something that would be extremely difficult to do and even more difficult to keep secret. Wouldn't at least one of their recruits said no, and reported them to his bosses and/or the media or someone like Ted Cruz?
Count me out of the conspiracy camp. I'm firmly in the camp that says don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence. Just because the other side is bad does not mean they plotted every bad thing that happens in the world.
Because of the Manson connection the title phrase has always signified something sinister for me, so I read your post with dark glasses on. That said, I can’t chalk up what happened in Butler purely to incompetence resulting from too many D.E.I. hires, etc. The truth lies somewhere in between us.
Glenn: somewhere I read that SO MANY instances of INCOMPETENCE will often hint at something much darker! The snafus that happened in Butler were almost too impossible to believe! But, not being totally into conspiracies, it really would only take a few people "in on it" to neutralize other folks trying to do their job---like the lack of communications, etc.(?)
The cocaine evidence has now been destroyed leaving us to wonder what evidence protocol really is! Did that include the bag or just the drug? Did they destroy the dna report also? So much for transparency.
Had that cocaine sample been sent to the FBI lab in Quantico, they'd know EVERYTHING possible about the owner, etc. The mere fact that it didn't get sent there is the most important thing we all need to know!
I had NOT heard it was sent to Quantico. IF SO, they would definitely know who touched the bad, etc. But you are correct: that dept is also weaponized!
I read about it in several MSM reports so if FBI lab translates to Quantico and the reports are reliable, we'll never know. The FBI reported the partial fingerprint was not identifiable.
This might sound loony, but I suspect deep state agents were behind (and acted in support of) the shooter in Butler, PA. I cannot believe how far the SS and FBI have fallen.
Here's another Helter Skelter"
https://dailycaller.com/2024/08/15/secret-service-agent-abandoned-post-guarding-trump-breastfeed/
Thanks for the heads-up. I've added your link.
It's been decades in the works. Buzz Patterson in his book about his time carrying the Nuke Football for the Clinton, he observed many of the Military Old Guard seeing promotions more political based over merit they took retirement while the going was good. Look at the people involved and where did they get the toe hold to higher status, across the board of our Government. Supposedly Republican FBI guy Comey was Clinton promoted. Our Agencies are filed by people not so aligned with US as much as grabbing power so they CAN for that perfect union envisioned by about every tyrant of the 19th/20th centuries.
Once the public accepted the FBI’s explanation of what happened to TWA Flight 800, the Agency has never had to be particularly imaginative or subtle in its ops.
What IS funny about Flight 800 and the resuling cover-up is a liberal, Dem pilot friend of mine from high school was laughing at anybody who suggested it was a conspiracy, UNTIL that one idiot said that the vertical streaks from the ground to the plane were really the plane going up after its nose was blown off. The pilot said it would nose over, and after that, he was also into the Coverup Camp! You and only fool the total idiots!
Investigative Reporter Jack Cashill did a lot of work on that and I hate to think of US Navy screwing up so badly but I think they did and covered it up. I'm ready for my tin foil hat!
And what about the pilots of other planes nearby? They also saw "streaks" heading towards 800, AND the PETN residue on the seats---not JP4! Really makes one wonder, at the very least.
They also ignored the testimony of a whole lot of people who saw streaks heading to the plane..
RFK, Jr. is not my choice for anything but his Dad and Uncle were killed and Secret Service denied protection for him? What we have now at that agency is an intentional effort to protect their friends and political enemies not so much. Trump will be attacked again whether he's re-elected or not.
“Fortunately, the shooter had already been neutralized . . . .” Yes, amazing the efficiency with which THAT happened! The SS didn’t spot anyone on the roof, but put a bullet through the shooter’s skull within seconds. Everything that might ever be known about the shooter can now also be neutralized, effortlessly, especially with a press that is doing its best to pretend that the whole thing never even happened.
Good piece, Glenn. If this were the UK these days, this essay would model just how much a citizen can suggest about the government and its police without fear of imprisonment. You’re crafty, but you’d be pushing it.
For the record, I think the notion that the SS and the shooter were in cahoots is absurd.
*For one thing, wouldn't they have gotten a better marksman?
*For another, how likely is it that there would be multiple agents conspiring on such an ambitious mission without anyone ever blowing the whistle?
*For another, are we to believe that the local cops who were on-site were in on it too even though they apparently had no prior contact with the SS?
*For another, if they deliberately permitted the shooter to shoot from the rooftop with a rifle, why not just "accidentally" allow him to walk up to the podium with a large caliber handgun under his shirt?
*For another, if it was a conspiracy, then why did they express concern and suspicions before the shooting began? Wouldn't they instead pretend to believe everything was hunky-dory?
*For another, the multiple rallies don't get staffed by the same SS agents. So the conspirators would have to recruit and juggle many different agents as co-conspirators, something that would be extremely difficult to do and even more difficult to keep secret. Wouldn't at least one of their recruits said no, and reported them to his bosses and/or the media or someone like Ted Cruz?
Count me out of the conspiracy camp. I'm firmly in the camp that says don't attribute to malice what can easily be explained by incompetence. Just because the other side is bad does not mean they plotted every bad thing that happens in the world.
Because of the Manson connection the title phrase has always signified something sinister for me, so I read your post with dark glasses on. That said, I can’t chalk up what happened in Butler purely to incompetence resulting from too many D.E.I. hires, etc. The truth lies somewhere in between us.
Glenn: somewhere I read that SO MANY instances of INCOMPETENCE will often hint at something much darker! The snafus that happened in Butler were almost too impossible to believe! But, not being totally into conspiracies, it really would only take a few people "in on it" to neutralize other folks trying to do their job---like the lack of communications, etc.(?)
The cocaine evidence has now been destroyed leaving us to wonder what evidence protocol really is! Did that include the bag or just the drug? Did they destroy the dna report also? So much for transparency.
Had that cocaine sample been sent to the FBI lab in Quantico, they'd know EVERYTHING possible about the owner, etc. The mere fact that it didn't get sent there is the most important thing we all need to know!
Reports say the FBI lab did test it but since when do we trust the FBI?
I had NOT heard it was sent to Quantico. IF SO, they would definitely know who touched the bad, etc. But you are correct: that dept is also weaponized!
I read about it in several MSM reports so if FBI lab translates to Quantico and the reports are reliable, we'll never know. The FBI reported the partial fingerprint was not identifiable.
This might sound loony, but I suspect deep state agents were behind (and acted in support of) the shooter in Butler, PA. I cannot believe how far the SS and FBI have fallen.
There was sleeze and lies going on while Obama. Remember? https://www.foxnews.com/us/prostitution-scandal-ricochets-through-washington
Do ya do much women bashing guy??????