The travesty of a political show-trial against Donald Trump has finally been submitted to the jury of five men, five women and two lawyers in ultra-blue Manhattan.
Glenn: this judge has exceeded all expectations of being a biased jurist! His "orders" were that it doesn't matter which crime. As others have said: a 4-4-4- decision is a conviction! (I know, I am really pessimistic---and I PRAY I am totally wrong!)
The 4-4-4 narrative has gotten twisted by the media. The jury doesn't have to be unanimous on all reasons for a conviction, but they do need to be unanimous on the conviction.
And now we see the total miscarriage of justice has played out---and, even though educated folks like you, Dersh. and Turley left the door open for a hung jury, in NYC, there was NEVER any doubt in my mind that he was going to be convicted! It was just WAY too tempting for the libtards to NOT forever tag him with "Convicted Felon" Trump! SO, DJT now needs to call Biden out as TOO FEEBLE to run, since Hur dubbed him so!
Desrshowitz said that the judge did not release the extra jurors. He speculates that the reason may be that if there is a hung jury, he may replace the hung juror so that they reach the judge's desired conclusion, a conviction.
It's really simple. The way I put it as someone who has lived on the West Coast for a long time, we're willing to let Portland be Portland and Boise be Boise. That's not quite acceptable to them, and the roots of their attitude are deep and twisted. By the way, I am not happy that Portland has become as afflicted by social problems as it has in the last several years. It was for a long time a quirky but nice town. Thinking back further to Chicago, where I grew up, we're willing to let Hyde Park be Hyde Park and Bridgeport be Bridgeport. Them, not so much. They want it all to Hyde Park and Berkeley.
I would like to think that at least one of the attorneys would see through the sloppy and problematic show trial circus and vote to acquit even if they can’t stand Donald Trump.
I spent 8 years working for lawyers in mid-town Manhattan, and more than 20 years working for lawyers. I think you're right, and I'm kind of counting on that. They know; if they have any morals at all, they won't be able to convict based on the complete lack of real due process.
One "Agreed" but one "I'm not so sure" on today's post. First, I agree a hung jury is the most likely outcome, but I fear that may be the triumph of hope over experience. Like you, I have had my share of jury forecasting while awaiting verdicts and in most cases, my analyses were dashed by the jurors themselves. For that reason, I stopped trying to speak with jurors after they were dismissed following the end of their deliberations; I just packed up and hotfootted it away from the courthouse as fast as possible. I also soon realized that behind the kind smiles and friendly nods of the heads in the jury box could be lurking daggers in the hearts of the same juror! Happily, my results were generally favorable, since I seldom took a case to trial that I had not already determined was likely to result in an outcome that pleased my client(s). Of course, as an insurance defense lawyer, that meant a dollar verdict below the plaintiff's lowest demand, considered a "win" even though not an outright defense verdict. But I digress. My "not so sure follows your remark that, "Trump will probably receive a probation sentence and he certainly won’t be imprisoned on these ridiculous charges before the election." If Trump is convicted, based on his churlish judicial temperment and rank bias in favor of the prosecution, I suspect Merchan would be more than happy to go down in history as the "hanging judge who put Trump in the slammer." After all, Trump is Hitler, amirite? and who wouldn't put Hitler in jail? I mean, even that harpy shrew of a wife, "Dr." Jill is now on record as calling Trump and his supporters "evil." Sentencing Trump to a term of incarceration would burnish Merchan's leftist bona fides and make him the hero at any social gatherings of his fellow leftists, not to mention put money in his daughter's pocket. So, if it is not acquittal or hung jury, I am afraid we will see our 45th and soon-to-be next president behind bars, unless an appeal stays execution of the sentence pending reversal. Meanwhile, the rest of the world points and laughs at our utter folly and our adversaries chortle with glee.
Communist - or paid actor by the Xiden administration - Merchan instructed the jury that they do not need a unanimous decision!? "You only need four to convict." What.The.Fvck!?
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria
That would be a major victory for DJT, but I doubt it. The pressure (and danger) to the juror or jurors would be overwhelming. My bet is they convict him, but I hope I am wrong.
The current atmosphere suggests that this jury might be fearful that should they acquit President Trump, they will be targeted by the TDS mob. It's a genuine fear.
Felon in name only! Joe needs to be jailed for his records stealing and giving the documents to his ghost writer. If he is NOT jailed, then the Dems will be choosing a MENTALLY INCOMPETENT candidate to represent them! It is a binary choice! Jail or Insanity!
Actually, I have a pretty good vocabulary. There are, indeed, innumerable derogatory nouns & adjectives that would perfectly describe loathsome creatures of your ilk, but space & time are limited.
Keep in mind, in the very near future, Trump will need to get permission from his parole officer to leave the State! If only the Republican Party would have done their job, we would be looking at a different Republican candidate who I would have supported. Trump is a liar, con, fraud and now a convicted felon! Not to mention a despicable human being who only cares about himself. The Republican Party chose this path and now they will face many repercussions. It’s a sad day for our country.
Sadder, still, that the Dems also have a grifter, LIAR, and, were it not for the corrupt DOJ, also a JAILED FELON! But, what the dems DO have, undisputably, is a DEMENTED, SENILE citizen who has sold our safety to China and others! Just WHO does Biden care about?? Please, explain!
You DO know he is going to allow Trump's tax cuts to expire, thereby raising the total taxation on ALL OF US to a tune of 5 TRILLION, not counting his vote-buying schemes of student loan forgiveness---which, of course, SCOTUS said was ILLEGAL, but Demented Joe will do it anyway. SO WHO is the threat to democracy? I could go on and on, but I'd bet that the Dems would LOVE to see him drop dead!
Unfortunately, the Dems could and will go on about Trump and they should. The Republican Party had so many opportunities to move on from Trump after January 6th. We can begin with Kevin McCarthy going to Mar-A-Largo to kiss the ring. Mitch McConnell had an opportunity and they chose to acquit. I believe that was the second impeachment trial. Bottom line, the Republican Party chose not to move on from Trump and now we will continue to face the consequences.
Interestingly & tellingly, you appear to assume that because I’m enraged about what the Democrats (& other Trump haters) are doing to him, that means I’m a big Trump fan. In fact, I’ve never been that big of a Trump supporter & have preferred other candidates in 2016 & 2024, such as Cruz & DeSantis. However, first & foremost, I’m a solid conservative patriotic American who understands & highly values the Constitution & the values it enshrines. That’s primarily why I’m hopping mad about the utterly disgraceful law fare being waged against Trump, banana republic style, NYY his political opposition. It’s not only unprecedented, it’s literally destroying the rule of law in this country. The fact that you support what’s being done to him (or anyone) in the name of “the law” & “justice” means your TDS far outweighs your love of this country. It’s disgraceful.
As a New Yorker & a litigator, I predicted in writing on several blogs these odds: 90% conviction; 10% hung jury; 0% acquittal. Respectfully, a prediction of most likely a hung jury in Manhattan with this judge & these outrageous charges vs Trump was pretty naive.
I find it interesting when someone speaks out against Trump, you diagnose TDS or they are categorized as Trump haters. How would you diagnose 40 of his 44 former cabinet members as not supporting him in 2024 and they worked with Trump? Do they have TDS? Are they Trump haters? I find it really rich since you say you are such a supporter of the Constitution, when Trump was the only President in modern history not to concede an election. I will respectively to agree to disagree. Hope this works out well for you as there will be additional Trump felony convictions. Are convicted felons in Florida allowed to participate in US elections? I recall DeSantis working to prevent this from happening.
It is usual to enter the judgement after sentencing. (Scheduled for July 11.)
So, when you or your left wing media buddies call Trump a "convicted felon", you are engaging in Slander. Normally, slander is difficult to prove against a public figure because of the difficulty of proving malice. I don't think that will be so hard. Several $100 million slander lawsuits would be in order against your media buddies.
The judge won't allow a hung jury
It's not really the judge's decision. He can't imprison the jurors all summer, as a practical matter.
Glenn: this judge has exceeded all expectations of being a biased jurist! His "orders" were that it doesn't matter which crime. As others have said: a 4-4-4- decision is a conviction! (I know, I am really pessimistic---and I PRAY I am totally wrong!)
The 4-4-4 narrative has gotten twisted by the media. The jury doesn't have to be unanimous on all reasons for a conviction, but they do need to be unanimous on the conviction.
And now we see the total miscarriage of justice has played out---and, even though educated folks like you, Dersh. and Turley left the door open for a hung jury, in NYC, there was NEVER any doubt in my mind that he was going to be convicted! It was just WAY too tempting for the libtards to NOT forever tag him with "Convicted Felon" Trump! SO, DJT now needs to call Biden out as TOO FEEBLE to run, since Hur dubbed him so!
I had the same expectation & I’m an experienced litigator (although in Maryland, not NY. But I’m from NY.)
Desrshowitz said that the judge did not release the extra jurors. He speculates that the reason may be that if there is a hung jury, he may replace the hung juror so that they reach the judge's desired conclusion, a conviction.
I don't think the judge has that power.
Dersch says that the judge does have the power. He's seen it done. Listen to his podcast from yesterday. 18:30 minutes in the program. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uksgiZxGk4U&t=1258s
People who live on the Left see absolutely no problem with sabotaging another person.
While many people on the Right see this as a sin.
It's really simple. The way I put it as someone who has lived on the West Coast for a long time, we're willing to let Portland be Portland and Boise be Boise. That's not quite acceptable to them, and the roots of their attitude are deep and twisted. By the way, I am not happy that Portland has become as afflicted by social problems as it has in the last several years. It was for a long time a quirky but nice town. Thinking back further to Chicago, where I grew up, we're willing to let Hyde Park be Hyde Park and Bridgeport be Bridgeport. Them, not so much. They want it all to Hyde Park and Berkeley.
It only takes one rational juror to wreck Joe's plan...
Hope it's TRUE!
I would like to think that at least one of the attorneys would see through the sloppy and problematic show trial circus and vote to acquit even if they can’t stand Donald Trump.
I spent 8 years working for lawyers in mid-town Manhattan, and more than 20 years working for lawyers. I think you're right, and I'm kind of counting on that. They know; if they have any morals at all, they won't be able to convict based on the complete lack of real due process.
You just gave the reason Trump gets convicted: AMORAL NYC attorneys!
I just saw the verdict. Sadly, that seems to be the case. Now I only hope the jury members start reading about how badly they were all lied to.
They don’t care. They’re proud & are relieved they won’t be targeted by the Democrat mobs.
I wouldn't count on even Democrats not being targeted. It depends on if they get in the way.
That would require integrity.
Ho-hum, just another brilliant analysis and commentary by Glenn!
Thank you, sir!
One "Agreed" but one "I'm not so sure" on today's post. First, I agree a hung jury is the most likely outcome, but I fear that may be the triumph of hope over experience. Like you, I have had my share of jury forecasting while awaiting verdicts and in most cases, my analyses were dashed by the jurors themselves. For that reason, I stopped trying to speak with jurors after they were dismissed following the end of their deliberations; I just packed up and hotfootted it away from the courthouse as fast as possible. I also soon realized that behind the kind smiles and friendly nods of the heads in the jury box could be lurking daggers in the hearts of the same juror! Happily, my results were generally favorable, since I seldom took a case to trial that I had not already determined was likely to result in an outcome that pleased my client(s). Of course, as an insurance defense lawyer, that meant a dollar verdict below the plaintiff's lowest demand, considered a "win" even though not an outright defense verdict. But I digress. My "not so sure follows your remark that, "Trump will probably receive a probation sentence and he certainly won’t be imprisoned on these ridiculous charges before the election." If Trump is convicted, based on his churlish judicial temperment and rank bias in favor of the prosecution, I suspect Merchan would be more than happy to go down in history as the "hanging judge who put Trump in the slammer." After all, Trump is Hitler, amirite? and who wouldn't put Hitler in jail? I mean, even that harpy shrew of a wife, "Dr." Jill is now on record as calling Trump and his supporters "evil." Sentencing Trump to a term of incarceration would burnish Merchan's leftist bona fides and make him the hero at any social gatherings of his fellow leftists, not to mention put money in his daughter's pocket. So, if it is not acquittal or hung jury, I am afraid we will see our 45th and soon-to-be next president behind bars, unless an appeal stays execution of the sentence pending reversal. Meanwhile, the rest of the world points and laughs at our utter folly and our adversaries chortle with glee.
Communist - or paid actor by the Xiden administration - Merchan instructed the jury that they do not need a unanimous decision!? "You only need four to convict." What.The.Fvck!?
"Show me the man and I will show you the crime." - Lavrentiy Beria
Your first sentence is a lawyer joke I hadn’t heard before.
My question is, hung jury on what charge? Aren’t there a whole grab bag of them? What is the principal crime? Has it ever been spelled out?
Finally, can the worst outcome be appealed directly to the Supreme Court, given the stakes for the nation? Would the Court take this on? Could they?
That would be a major victory for DJT, but I doubt it. The pressure (and danger) to the juror or jurors would be overwhelming. My bet is they convict him, but I hope I am wrong.
I feel sorry for Gia De Niro.
The current atmosphere suggests that this jury might be fearful that should they acquit President Trump, they will be targeted by the TDS mob. It's a genuine fear.
So much for your prediction. It appears the Republican Party will choose a Convicted FELON to best represent their Party!
Felon in name only! Joe needs to be jailed for his records stealing and giving the documents to his ghost writer. If he is NOT jailed, then the Dems will be choosing a MENTALLY INCOMPETENT candidate to represent them! It is a binary choice! Jail or Insanity!
Thanks for turning the country into a banana republic, you Leftist destroyer. May you rot in #%*€
This is not the last felony conviction for Trump. I can tell you have an extensive vocabulary!
Actually, I have a pretty good vocabulary. There are, indeed, innumerable derogatory nouns & adjectives that would perfectly describe loathsome creatures of your ilk, but space & time are limited.
Keep in mind, in the very near future, Trump will need to get permission from his parole officer to leave the State! If only the Republican Party would have done their job, we would be looking at a different Republican candidate who I would have supported. Trump is a liar, con, fraud and now a convicted felon! Not to mention a despicable human being who only cares about himself. The Republican Party chose this path and now they will face many repercussions. It’s a sad day for our country.
Sadder, still, that the Dems also have a grifter, LIAR, and, were it not for the corrupt DOJ, also a JAILED FELON! But, what the dems DO have, undisputably, is a DEMENTED, SENILE citizen who has sold our safety to China and others! Just WHO does Biden care about?? Please, explain!
You DO know he is going to allow Trump's tax cuts to expire, thereby raising the total taxation on ALL OF US to a tune of 5 TRILLION, not counting his vote-buying schemes of student loan forgiveness---which, of course, SCOTUS said was ILLEGAL, but Demented Joe will do it anyway. SO WHO is the threat to democracy? I could go on and on, but I'd bet that the Dems would LOVE to see him drop dead!
Unfortunately, the Dems could and will go on about Trump and they should. The Republican Party had so many opportunities to move on from Trump after January 6th. We can begin with Kevin McCarthy going to Mar-A-Largo to kiss the ring. Mitch McConnell had an opportunity and they chose to acquit. I believe that was the second impeachment trial. Bottom line, the Republican Party chose not to move on from Trump and now we will continue to face the consequences.
Interestingly & tellingly, you appear to assume that because I’m enraged about what the Democrats (& other Trump haters) are doing to him, that means I’m a big Trump fan. In fact, I’ve never been that big of a Trump supporter & have preferred other candidates in 2016 & 2024, such as Cruz & DeSantis. However, first & foremost, I’m a solid conservative patriotic American who understands & highly values the Constitution & the values it enshrines. That’s primarily why I’m hopping mad about the utterly disgraceful law fare being waged against Trump, banana republic style, NYY his political opposition. It’s not only unprecedented, it’s literally destroying the rule of law in this country. The fact that you support what’s being done to him (or anyone) in the name of “the law” & “justice” means your TDS far outweighs your love of this country. It’s disgraceful.
As a New Yorker & a litigator, I predicted in writing on several blogs these odds: 90% conviction; 10% hung jury; 0% acquittal. Respectfully, a prediction of most likely a hung jury in Manhattan with this judge & these outrageous charges vs Trump was pretty naive.
I find it interesting when someone speaks out against Trump, you diagnose TDS or they are categorized as Trump haters. How would you diagnose 40 of his 44 former cabinet members as not supporting him in 2024 and they worked with Trump? Do they have TDS? Are they Trump haters? I find it really rich since you say you are such a supporter of the Constitution, when Trump was the only President in modern history not to concede an election. I will respectively to agree to disagree. Hope this works out well for you as there will be additional Trump felony convictions. Are convicted felons in Florida allowed to participate in US elections? I recall DeSantis working to prevent this from happening.
Trump is NOT a "convicted felon".
The judgement has not been entered yet.
It is usual to enter the judgement after sentencing. (Scheduled for July 11.)
So, when you or your left wing media buddies call Trump a "convicted felon", you are engaging in Slander. Normally, slander is difficult to prove against a public figure because of the difficulty of proving malice. I don't think that will be so hard. Several $100 million slander lawsuits would be in order against your media buddies.